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China Idles 40% of Windpower Turbine Output Capacity

bloomberg,com -- China is idling as much as 40 percent of its wind-turbine factories following a surge in investment driven by the government’s renewable energy goals, the vice president of Shanghai Electric Group Corp. said.

Prices of turbines have tumbled more than 30 percent from 2004 levels in the world’s third-biggest windpower market by generating capacity because there are “too many” plants, Lu Yachen said in an interview in Beijing today.

China aims to increase its capacity to produce power from the wind fivefold by 2020, spurring investment in turbine factories. Zhang Guobao, who helms the National Energy Administration, said in September without giving figures that there was a surplus of such plants.

“The overcapacity in manufacturing is caused by slower growth in wind-farm constru

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Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,831 Points:764,455 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:56:16 AM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse they'll soon be dumping their excess turbine production here just like they dump all their consumer production.... they'll undercut our american production... put our people out of work... and rule the roost just like they do else where... and our limp politicos will sit there and do nothing.... because China underwrites our entire 14 trillion dollar debt.
RdHogg Champion Author Houston Posts:14,976 Points:1,934,155 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:55:41 AM Ignore RdHogg Report Abuse Dont worry Toyota is on it !!!
Spetsnaz Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,515 Points:537,315 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:55:17 AM Ignore Spetsnaz Report Abuse Wind power is a thought here.
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:3,924 Points:1,436,850 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:55:14 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse Another wonderful example that there is nothing quite like government control and ownership.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,814 Points:1,551,190 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:53:42 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse The problem is probably due to lack of investment in infrastructure. Transmission lines, storage capacity, switch gear, transformers, etc. are no small order. It's a big problem here also.
zornave Champion Author Louisville Posts:13,887 Points:2,204,540 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:47:06 AM Ignore zornave Report Abuse Couldn't compete with Washington, D.C. on wind power.
no_monkey2002 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,788 Points:1,124,165 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:46:32 AM Ignore no_monkey2002 Report Abuse sounds like a lot of hot air is blowing our way...OBAMA may want to loan china a few dollars..
mk9999 Champion Author Rochester Posts:2,972 Points:695,245 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:45:31 AM Ignore mk9999 Report Abuse We need more windpower in this country.
thedennis64 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,015 Points:783,370 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:45:07 AM Ignore thedennis64 Report Abuse Keep eyes on them.
rsm315 All-Star Author Detroit Posts:831 Points:218,555 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:43:52 AM Ignore rsm315 Report Abuse we need to watch them
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,620 Points:325,425 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:43:25 AM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse Windpower is still a very unstructured energy generating industry. There are companies manufacturing the hardware but the infrastructure to manage the regulation & distribution is very much lacking.
ronsimonil All-Star Author Illinois Posts:718 Points:152,595 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:43:18 AM Ignore ronsimonil Report Abuse It sounds like China is feeling the recession too.
BM4225 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,474 Points:1,177,170 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:41:53 AM Ignore BM4225 Report Abuse Sounds like the auto industry, more capacity than needs. Now if we could only see the light, and build a few factories here to build wind turbines, and improve the grid in unison, we would have an over built situation as they do, and we could put a lot of our auto production people back to work. No this would be doing something intelligent, instead we import the turbines from other countries, and put their people to work, and don't more forward with improving the grid.
DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,112 Points:1,148,975 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:40:39 AM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse demand is down because companies aren't getting the big checks from the government and have to pay for things themselves to get them built. just like pikens who stopped plans because he would have to use more of his money to build them.
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,330 Points:784,175 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:40:15 AM Ignore traindude Report Abuse good, make em cheaper and put a bunch of them in front of capitol hill and maybe all those air bags will be of some use now
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:4,384 Points:1,145,795 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:39:54 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Another sign of the economic situation.
Skipper52 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:2,551 Points:632,950 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:39:31 AM Ignore Skipper52 Report Abuse We need to buy there excess production and put up more wind power in the US.
rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:1,872 Points:554,535 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:39:07 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse Without a grid to transfer the power they dont need the mills.
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:4,031 Points:1,413,640 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:38:22 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Just another ploy to raise prices.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,795 Points:1,583,840 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:38:21 AM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse Same problem groups like Krispy Kreme felt when it tried to expand to far and too fast. Somethins growth is best done slowly.
Tundralimited2009 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,577 Points:518,500 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:37:43 AM Ignore Tundralimited2009 Report Abuse China is a leader in Tech..
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:3,696 Points:661,885 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:37:29 AM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse talk about price controls.....
arinkrat17 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,492 Points:364,565 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:34:31 AM Ignore arinkrat17 Report Abuse have more to keep people from using so much electrity
ky_commuter75 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,688 Points:998,310 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:34:03 AM Ignore ky_commuter75 Report Abuse We need to watch out for them.
Grismer Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:3,707 Points:767,265 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:32:54 AM Ignore Grismer Report Abuse China's wind turbine industry most have taken a lesson from our oil refining industry.
sdhuper Sophomore Author Toronto Posts:174 Points:68,615 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:32:00 AM Ignore sdhuper Report Abuse too many plants? and they are worried about it.
cardjcsk Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,421 Points:1,015,110 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:29:32 AM Ignore cardjcsk Report Abuse WOW, stop the natural gas
turbosaab Champion Author Cleveland Posts:9,123 Points:1,436,715 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:28:03 AM Ignore turbosaab Report Abuse This sounds like a simple matter of supply and demand.
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,829 Points:606,080 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:26:54 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse There are problems with this article. In a command economy, does it still make sense to try to raise prices by decreasing electricity generation? Is it not having the power lines to move it or is all that coal they are not buying from the US for some other purpose? I believe it is the lies told by these types of governments, i.e., Red China, this U.S. government, etc.
Badmoon Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,351 Points:677,015 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:26:09 AM Ignore Badmoon Report Abuse This should be a top priority in all countries.
clement007 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,131 Points:878,350 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:25:21 AM Ignore clement007 Report Abuse it is just a show anyhow they could care less
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:4,367 Points:311,800 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:23:19 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse Is this a glimpse of things to come with alternate energy sources. Price goes down so we'll stop producing to force price back up.. They've learned well from industrialized countries.
TeachR06 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:3,535 Points:1,012,760 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:22:38 AM Ignore TeachR06 Report Abuse they are probably spending their money buy the US.
fcdriver Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,854 Points:600,495 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:22:21 AM Ignore fcdriver Report Abuse while they are idle lets get some american companies to start up it will be a long time before the market is truly saturated with wind generators
jppezz Champion Author New Mexico Posts:3,639 Points:715,180 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:20:59 AM Ignore jppezz Report Abuse Why don't we sell China our coal since we have the most in the world,than we can build our own wind turbines. Or we can use all the hot air and wind out of Washington D.C.
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,642 Points:729,475 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:20:52 AM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse Nothing like too many wind turbines! Maybe the poorer Chinese could get some free electricity!
RoadhogMA Champion Author Boston Posts:2,084 Points:475,650 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:20:52 AM Ignore RoadhogMA Report Abuse obama & Red China ought to get married
Beau2140 Champion Author New York Posts:3,355 Points:680,560 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:19:18 AM Ignore Beau2140 Report Abuse We need to produce our own Wind Turbines and not import them from China.
MacSpot All-Star Author Virginia Posts:751 Points:546,010 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:17:21 AM Ignore MacSpot Report Abuse I can't believe there are "too many [wind generation] plants" - what it means is their wind turbine production has gotten ahead of their ability to convert from fossil fuel power generation. This is the right way to go, and we should follow suit here, preferably with American manufacturing plants harnessing great plains wind. It's only a matter of time before the oil runs out, and we've known that day is coming for years. Let's not be ostriches - we should not deny that an oil supply problem exists. And that means developing alternatives.
Hangnail309 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,434 Points:759,640 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:16:39 AM Ignore Hangnail309 Report Abuse Did this happen because of the huge coal deal with Australia in yesterday's news?
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:4,453 Points:1,003,680 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:16:33 AM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse So then why is China looking to buy coal from Australia, if they have so much reserve capacity in the wind farms that they are idling turbines?
tco0102 Champion Author Charleston Posts:3,721 Points:965,760 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:16:04 AM Ignore tco0102 Report Abuse What a problem to have.
billy44bo Champion Author Mobile Posts:3,287 Points:621,130 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:15:11 AM Ignore billy44bo Report Abuse With nobama and his tugs CSharpGuy is right
tankneverfull Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,237 Points:829,495 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:12:46 AM Ignore tankneverfull Report Abuse If only we had such problems.
dhawk24 Champion Author Maine Posts:3,063 Points:674,405 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:11:57 AM Ignore dhawk24 Report Abuse Shut down the turbines and throw away the earplugs...
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:4,564 Points:926,635 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:09:55 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse You notice that the government tells them to turn off the turbines, no freedom. That's direction we are going in the US.
MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:9,832 Points:1,919,285 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:08:51 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse Anything to drive up the costs.
foxups Champion Author Toledo Posts:3,252 Points:645,060 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:08:45 AM Ignore foxups Report Abuse bring some of those plants over here
curlypooh Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,939 Points:1,035,215 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:07:02 AM Ignore curlypooh Report Abuse This is perfect!!! Now we don't have to borrow to buy them, just add it to the tab!! Thanks OBOMBUS, you moron!!!
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:4,414 Points:864,950 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:07:00 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse Good for them. Maybe it will mean they need less oil.
QueenMother Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,741 Points:1,223,250 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:05:16 AM Ignore QueenMother Report Abuse They'll need those wind turbines sooner or later.
Metroman Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:8,202 Points:1,645,970 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:05:08 AM Ignore Metroman Report Abuse Wouldn't it be great to have that problem too many wind turbines?